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This new Canon 1D is big disappointment. Canon has turned their back on the studio business. We all anticipated a replacement for the Kodak 560. Nikon? Looks like a necessity now.
-Chip Peterson
SENT: Sun 07/10/01 04:44
Ed:- Looks like opinion is evenly split. To be honest, nobody really knows how good the 4MP sensor is yet. From personal experience, some 2MP cameras can produce better images than 3MP cameras and some 3MP cameras better than 4MP ones, etc. Resolution isn’t everything.
My feeling is that if Canon delivers a good 4MP sensor inside the 1D, people will start to focus on how key an advantage the bigger size of the sensor is for wide angle work. Plus the camera is stuffed with amazing features - ISO and white balance bracketing, JPEG and RAW output simultaneously, etc.
But fundamentally it all does hinge on how good that CCD proves to be.
Hi everyone
Well I think it would be rather helpful to post this link in your Canon D1 feedback section:
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/canoneos1d/page8.asp
But then again that site is sort of a competitor to your site? dunno about your view on this. Just wanted to help out with some possible answers to the other feedback already posted.
Kind regards
Tom
SENT: Wed 03/10/01 23:17
Ed:- No problem Tom - Phil Askey’s excellent site is not a compeitor in the sctrictest sense. We do and and will continue to overlap, but I strongly feel most sites are more complementary than competitive. Phil has helped me out very valuably in the past and I hope to help him in the future!
Incidentally, after a hands on with the 1D on Wednesday - I have to say it’s a mean machine to say the least! But we weren’t allowed to take shots awau for analysis.
Canon realise that their strength has always been in sports photography, they've been at it since the original F1 High Speed. So I think their decision to just stick to doing the thing they do very well is brilliant.
I share your view that the EOS-1D will be an excellent all-rounder. For all purposes where 35mm used to be the format of choice (sports, outdoors, wildlife, news), the 4MP sensor will be just fine. Over at the Nikon camp, Moose Peterson didn't even keep his Nikon D1x because he didn't have, according to him, a need for 'large files'. He opted instead for the faster D1H to replace his old D1.
Thanks,
Otelio Garcia
SENT: Mon 01/10/01 05:02
Ed:- Otelio, I tend to lean towards your point of view, but that’s not to say the frustration of others, like Michael (just below), is totally unjustified.
We were Loyal Canon Shooters. We have waited anxiously, but patiently for our favorite camera brand to come through for us. During that same time, Nikon owners could joyfully pick a camera for their shooting style (I don't need 8 frames per second, I need resolution). Now Canon rewards our anxieties with a camera that has a Rolls Royce body and a little 4 liter engine. Yes Ed, I know it is 2001, but by the time this thing is available, it will be 2002 and we will be further behind Nikon while paying one and a half times as much.
Michael
SENT: Sun 30/09/01 02:14
Ed:- Michael - I’m sympathetic, but I still think the EOS-1D spec makes for a great all-rounder. But as you say, you need resolution - so are you going to move to Nikon and a D1x, or even wait for the Contax N1 digital early next year?
I'm disappointed with Cannon. I was waiting for at least a 6 mp camera NOT a 4 mp. I guess I'll buy a 760.
Midgley Imaging
Syracuse, NY
SENT: Sat 28/09/02 18:37
Ed:- It’s a free world, Bob - but you ought to set your PC’s clock to 2001...
hi,
Good article, Good camera, Bad price. ripped off again UK price is far to high, whose going to pay £5500.00 for a 4MP. We should ask ourselves why did Kodak reduce their prices for 6MP pro cameras?
Kind regards
Peter Pritchard
SENT: Thu 27/09/01 14:56
Ed:- I’d be lying if I denied there was a pang of disappointment in my heart when I saw the price, but this is a professional camera. Relatively few will be made and its design, ruggedness and standard of finish are undoubtedly exceptional. But Nikon might argue the same for its D1h and D1x, both of which are individually a lot less expensive (about £4,000 and £3,400 respectively vs £5,500 for the Canon EOS-1D). But then Canon might argue you’d need both a D1h and a D1x to match what you get with the EOS-1D...
On another point, yes we do usually seem to lose out when dollars are converted to pounds. I gather the US price is about $7,000, and my calculations suggest that’s about £500 cheaper than the UK price. I’ll ask Canon about this discrepancy and get back to you.
Dear ED.
Canon decided a 12 meg. file was going to do the trick?
I think, if I had had the choice or money, I would have chosen the Philips CCD over the Kodak. Lets hope the new Canon CCD is an improvement on the Nikon/Kodak CCD. Maybe I can compete with the Nikon D1X owners.
Will it remain a secret where the CCD comes from?
Jim
SENT: Tue 25/09/01 19:06
Ed:- I presume you are referring to the full-szie (24x36mm) CCD promised by Pentax, at least, for its proposed digital SLR? The problem is that this CCD was shown many months ago and yet a shipping product, or indeed to my knowledge even some working prototypes, have yet to materialise. Maybe Canon could have waited, but I seriously doubt that would have made good commercial sense as Nikon progressively mopped up impatient Canon EOS using pros!
Again, I’ll try to find out who makes the CCD, but in my experience Canon keeps these facts very close to its chest!
Isn’t your site supposed to be for beginners and hobbyists? The price would pay my mortgage for two years! What’s the point?
Noel
SENT: Tue 25/09/01 12:19
Ed:- You’re missing the point, surely? I’d find a car magazine that didn’t cover autos I could only dream of owning quite a bore. Anyway, you’ll have affordable access to much of the new technology in the EOS-1D sooner than you think. Progress is that fast. I also think there is a much higher possibility of getting one’s hands on a camera like this, even if only for a few shots, than getting to drive, say, a Ferrari F40...
Only 4 megapixels. I think that is a let down. And it’s not CMOS. Nikon must be laughing.
Rich
SENT: Tue 25/09/01 09:43
Ed:- I was surprised Canon didn’t stick with CMOS after such a good effort with the D30. The EOS-1D chip is a lot bigger and I suspect making a CMOS version isn’t possible yet. If image quality is good, we’ll all forgive the designers! 4MP - yes, it’s not as high as the Nikon D1x, but the spec. runs rings around the D1h; I tend to think the EOS-1D will prove to be a clever all-rounder.
Thank you for so candidly addressing the concerns of Loyal Canon Shooters.
I have been waiting for quite a long time for this and I am happy you have noted the long wait.
Yay!
Thanks
-jason
SENT: Tue 25/09/01 01:19
Ed: - glad to be of service!
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