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How to control shutter speed without Shutter Priority

Does anyone know of any clever tricks that could allow me to set the shutter speed without a shutter priority mode?
I have a TZ6 and it doesn't have any manual modes.
I know I can set long exposures with some of the scene modes but I want to be able to set (for example) 1/40 or 1/60 for action shots where I want background movement.
I know I'll be told 'upgrade to the TZ10' etc but I just bought this camera thinking I wouldn't want manual control... and now I do!
What about setting a very low ISO and Landscape scene (small aperture). That should theoretically force a longer shutter opening but of course I don't really get any control of it.
Anyway, not expecting much here but someone might have some useful advice!
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Re: How to control shutter speed without Shutter Priority

With respect Mac, it sounds as though you are wanting to make the camera do something it was not designed to do, not properly at any rate.

If you want control you need a camera that will give you it, and that may mean you sell or pass on the TZ6. Invest in something that you can grow into and that gives you the control you after. Well that's my opinion anyway
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Re: How to control shutter speed without Shutter Priority

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Does anyone know of any clever tricks that could allow me to set the shutter speed without a shutter priority mode?
I have a TZ6 and it doesn't have any manual modes.
I know I can set long exposures with some of the scene modes but I want to be able to set (for example) 1/40 or 1/60 for action shots where I want background movement.
I know I'll be told 'upgrade to the TZ10' etc but I just bought this camera thinking I wouldn't want manual control... and now I do!
What about setting a very low ISO and Landscape scene (small aperture). That should theoretically force a longer shutter opening but of course I don't really get any control of it.
Anyway, not expecting much here but someone might have some useful advice!
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If you can control the aperture then by default you control the shutter speed

Wider aperture gives a higher shutter speed, smaller aperture gives a slower shutter speed. It works to allow the same amount of light onto the sensor.
If you have shutter speed control it would simply widen the aperture for faster shutter speeds and make smaller apertures for slower shutter speeds.

So to get monition blur stop down to the smallest aperture, if you want to freeze motion open up the aperture as much as is practical.

Higher or lower ISO is a sensitivity issue and responds to the amount of light it receives. So if you have a very bright day and want a wider aperture and slower shutter speed then set the lowest ISO you can, the effect could be intensified using a neutral density filter to cut down the amount of light reaching the sensor.

I hope all this is written clearly it makes sense to me.

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Re: How to control shutter speed without Shutter Priority

Hi Patrick,
Yes I understand exposure logic, I'm trying to find a way to apply it with a camera that doesn't allow direct control of apeture or shutter speeds.
I think I'm barking up the wrong tree here and will have to go back to my old camera til I get a new one that supports manual control.
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Re: How to control shutter speed without Shutter Priority

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Hi Patrick,
Yes I understand exposure logic, I'm trying to find a way to apply it with a camera that doesn't allow direct control of apeture or shutter speeds.
I think I'm barking up the wrong tree here and will have to go back to my old camera til I get a new one that supports manual control.
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Then Stephen is quit correct use your old camera or buy one with the supported features you require.

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Re: How to control shutter speed without Shutter Priority

There are a number of ways. I'm pretty sure that the camera does show you the exposure settings in the live view on the screen. Explore some scene modes that tend to affect shutter speed more then aperture and vice-versa, for example. To be very honest, there is very little scope to adjust aperture on a small sensor compact camera of any description as such cameras are basically designed to shoot at virtually full aperture all the time. Any great amount of stopping the aperture down would otherwise cause a lot of diffraction softening.

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Re: How to control shutter speed without Shutter Priority

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Does anyone know of any clever tricks that could allow me to set the shutter speed without a shutter priority mode?
I have a TZ6 and it doesn't have any manual modes.
I know I can set long exposures with some of the scene modes but I want to be able to set (for example) 1/40 or 1/60 for action shots where I want background movement.
I know I'll be told 'upgrade to the TZ10' etc but I just bought this camera thinking I wouldn't want manual control... and now I do!
What about setting a very low ISO and Landscape scene (small aperture). That should theoretically force a longer shutter opening but of course I don't really get any control of it.
Anyway, not expecting much here but someone might have some useful advice!
I have a tz5 which is basically the same camera, it displays f stop and shutter speed when you focus lock and there are a total of 23 scene modes to choose from together with an inteligent auto mode which makes a setting for you according to the scene.
Should be something in there for most situations.
As for motion blurring the background of a shot you need full control, and even then the type of shot is very difficult to do well even with a dslr.
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Re: How to control shutter speed without Shutter Priority

Bluetac a ND filter to front of it.
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Re: How to control shutter speed without Shutter Priority

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Bluetac a ND filter to front of it.
haha!
this is exactly what I was about to suggest Andrew!

What I would do, is find some sort of filter, or even put some sunglasses in front of the lens, this would cause the camera to create a longer exposure.

Having looked at the spec of the camera, I see it has the following exposure modes:

Portrait, Soft Skin, Transform, Self-Portrait, Scenery, Panorama Assist, Sports, Night Portrait, / Night Scenery, Food, Party, Candle Light, Baby1, Baby2, Pet, Sunset, High sensitivity, / Hi-Speed Burst (Image Priority / Speed Priority), Flash Burst, Starry Sky, Fireworks, Beach, Snow, / Aerial photo, Pinhole, Film Grain, Underwater

I would try putting it in 'firework' mode, this should cause a slightly longer exposure.

Hope that helps!
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Re: How to control shutter speed without Shutter Priority

Firework display does indeed give a longer exposure, but so does Starry Sky which will allow you to choose from several longer exposures but they are quite long: 15 sec, 30 sec, and 60 sec. I have used this for mine when trying to get a fast shot of splashing water. I put the camera (TZ5) into 30 sec mode and then fired a flash at the moment the water splash occured. It took a bit of trial and error, but it worked!
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