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    OK so I know I have post a lot of sunsets over the last week or so but please van I have some critique on these two. The first one I am really happy with the thing I think may have make it better was not to have had the half rocks in it.

    The second one was taken a bit late but it was taken after the first one. The thing I think is wrong with this is the detail in the slipway on the right and the detail on the Island is to dark, I think if this had been taken earlier in the evening that would have helped.

    This is what I thing may be wrong with them but would like your feed back please. Oh and have had them both printed off as a3 prints and they look pretty good.



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    Re: Two sunsets for critique please

    Hi

    So let me start by saying that the reason they look good in print is because they are.

    Starting with the first one it is a great combination of colour and composition. I would have liked to see a version where you had used a longer exposure to really turn that sea into mist. Also I think the rocks need a touch more contrast. This is of course personal opinion and the fact that my monitor has not been calibrated for 6 weeks now.

    The second one is my fav. I love the light in the building compared to the blues of the sea. With that said I think you are right, there does need to be more detail in the wall as at the momet it is very very black.

    In summary great pictures that I have enjoyed looking at.

    Best Rgards

    Josh
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      Re: Two sunsets for critique please

      Originally posted by Josh Bear View Post
      Hi

      So let me start by saying that the reason they look good in print is because they are.

      Starting with the first one it is a great combination of colour and composition. I would have liked to see a version where you had used a longer exposure to really turn that sea into mist. Also I think the rocks need a touch more contrast. This is of course personal opinion and the fact that my monitor has not been calibrated for 6 weeks now.

      The second one is my fav. I love the light in the building compared to the blues of the sea. With that said I think you are right, there does need to be more detail in the wall as at the moment it is very very black.

      In summary great pictures that I have enjoyed looking at.

      Best Rgards

      Josh
      Thanks Josh

      Agree now that I look at the first one it could do with a longer exposure to really turn that sea into mist Thats something I must learn. Glad you liked the second one. When I arrived it was pretty dark and doing a longer exposure was just blowing the lights out on the building but I will go back there soon to have a go when there's more light.
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      • #4
        Re: Two sunsets for critique please

        Well over 70 odd views but no comments other then from josh ??. Well we must have both hit the nail on the head with the critique. Or they are just to bad to talk about?
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        • #5
          Re: Two sunsets for critique please

          I think they are great peter, cant really fault either, prefer second one I think, certainly better than any sunset pics I have taken!
          cheers
          Ash
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          • #6
            Re: Two sunsets for critique please

            Thanks Ash

            Glad you liked them. This was really never my thing more into my motor sport photos but after not getting any real access to local motor sport I had lost my way so to speak. I now hope to put my time and effort into these types of photos.
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              Re: Two sunsets for critique please

              Originally posted by peter View Post
              Well over 70 odd views but no comments other then from josh ??. Well we must have both hit the nail on the head with the critique. Or they are just to bad to talk about?
              Hi Peter, I fully appreciate where you are coming from. I too find it frustrating when comments/critique are not forthcoming. However when you look at the figures and the membership perhaps it becomes more understandable.

              In the last 24 hrs there have been 28 member log in. I suspect nearly all of them have seen your pictures. However perhaps nearly half rarely or never comment on pictures in the critique forum. For one reason or another they do not like to comment, or feel they haven't the knowledge or expertise to make considered comments.

              There are a good proportion who are self confessed beginners and whilst they may comment in other forums, feel that critique is perhaps beyond them. Some people maybe more takers then givers and so never offer much in the way of comment, but prefer to ask instead. there are sometimes some who are more specialised and therefore only comment on their area of expertise. And so it goes on, and we are left with a handful of members who are the stalwarts and are prepared to give their time, effort and thought to pictures in the Critique forum.

              I suppose I have to count myself amongst those few, and frankly I have looked at the 2 shots several times today, and have been mulling over what I would like to say. I would think there is still some chance that a few members will comment yet, especially as I'm rocking the boat a little here However you will just have to be patient, sometimes these things take more time, and with only 28 members signing in over the last day, apathy is rife
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                Re: Two sunsets for critique please

                I'm guilty of looking. Unfortunately, I am not very good at passing comments in this critique section.

                All I can add is, I like the first more than the second. Sorry for sitting on the sidelines but I do have a problem as I say. (I am getting there in thoughts though.)

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                • #9
                  Re: Two sunsets for critique please

                  I don't think I am experienced enough to comment in the critique forum.

                  I do think the pictures look great though but you know that anyway. I feel just posting 'nice pic' is not good enough really.

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                    Re: Two sunsets for critique please

                    Originally posted by ekkl View Post
                    I don't think I am experienced enough to comment in the critique forum.

                    I do think the pictures look great though but you know that anyway. I feel just posting 'nice pic' is not good enough really.
                    I think you are right. I don't knock you for it, but the fact is that there are a lot of the daily visitors, at the moment, who are in the same boat so to speak, and therefore the opportunities to get real critical feedback can sometimes be slim for those who put themselves on the line and ask for it.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Two sunsets for critique please

                      Thanks Stephen

                      Yes it is something me and another member have been talking about of late. It does seem that there are not so many people on here of late. You also know that I do not always comment myself so this may be a bit of the pot calling the kettle black but I was hoping for some feed back on these.

                      Like I said in the first post I know of a few things that I have done wrong with them and will just wait and see what other people have to say. I would prefer it if people would just slag them off as long as it is helpful in the end than for loads of people to just look and say nothing.

                      Oh and by the way hit me with it what do you think??
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                        Re: Two sunsets for critique please

                        Originally posted by ekkl View Post
                        I don't think I am experienced enough to comment in the critique forum.

                        I do think the pictures look great though but you know that anyway. I feel just posting 'nice pic' is not good enough really.

                        I think that all me and any other members that post something for critique ask for is why you like a picture and why you may not like parts of it. You do not need to go into loads of detail because anything that you say and we may pick up on could help us to take better pictures. You may just look at a picture and say yes I like that bit but maybe that bit over there is too dark or maybe you think something may be missing from the picture ie a point that you may focus on that leads you into the picture. The thing is when you do this it helps you in the end because when you take a photo you may think back and say to yourself I told that guy "I think you need a lead in line"
                        where is mine??
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                        • #13
                          Re: Two sunsets for critique please

                          Both pics are perfectly fine Peter, though the first one I particularly like. The colours of the sky, the light on the rocks and the blurred water make for a lovely shot IMO. Perhaps one might argue that the horizon is too near the middle, and the shot could probably benefit from some subtle sharpening, but overall not much to say against it.

                          With the second picture, I think the colour of sky and sea contrast well with the artificial lighting on the castle. However for me you did leave it too late and this has meant there is no detail in the shadowy cliff or sea wall, it is just a black mass. Apart from that the picture is well exposed as there is detail in the castle as well as in the slipway. I'm often a little uneasy about mixing light sources such as this, and WB becomes an issue. Without the artificial light on the castle, no doubt it would all have become a sillouette like the cliff. Anyway these are just a few thoughts.......would a dawn shoot at the same place be any better do you think?
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                            Re: Two sunsets for critique please

                            Originally posted by peter View Post
                            I think that all me and any other members that post something for critique ask for is why you like a picture and why you may not like parts of it. You do not need to go into loads of detail because anything that you say and we may pick up on could help us to take better pictures. You may just look at a picture and say yes I like that bit but maybe that bit over there is too dark or maybe you think something may be missing from the picture ie a point that you may focus on that leads you into the picture. The thing is when you do this it helps you in the end because when you take a photo you may think back and say to yourself I told that guy "I think you need a lead in line"
                            where is mine??
                            Agree wholeheartedly Peter
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                              Re: Two sunsets for critique please

                              Originally posted by ekkl View Post
                              I don't think I am experienced enough to comment in the critique forum.

                              I do think the pictures look great though but you know that anyway. I feel just posting 'nice pic' is not good enough really.

                              I joined this forum roughly around the same time I got serious with photography, about 5 years ago, and I can honestly say that if I had not, then my images would not be what they are now.
                              I always used to post in the critique section hungry for comments! I admit I did not always like the feedback but over time I have learned that there is alway's somebody more experienced than yourself willing to share their knowledge and help you.

                              But, you do not need to post a picture to learn and gain experience.
                              If you post a comment on how you feal about an image and how you think it should be, thats fine, then somebody more experienced may reply and sometimes correct you, thats where you learn, and you dont even have to post a pic!

                              Even if you are not a photographer, photographers need feedback from the general joe shmo on the street, after all you are the masses that the photographer is wanting to impress! Ann my wife is the most up front straight to the point critique, and if she thinks one of my pics is crap then she will tell me.

                              And the most important thing is when you post a picture for critique ' DONT TAKE IT PERSONALLY' which I have many times

                              thanks
                              Ash.
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