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    Re: Newbie Diving In

    Hi Pops and let me first welcome you to the DPNow forums, I'm sure you will like it in here. I'm really pleased you have taken the plunge so to speak and gone for a dSLR. This 400D was an exciting new release this year and I'll be interested to know how you get on with it. Apart from the fact that its a Canon and I'm a Canon man, it looks like a belter of a camera to me.

    I'm not familiar with the lenses or indeed the macro function on them. All I can say is that you should get sharp focus at any focal length with a conventional lens at any given camera to subject distance. So if you go for the closest focus point, you should be able to zoom in and have the lens stay in focus. However it is possible that Macro lenses work slightly differently in that they have a macro zone within the lens and this may restrict zooming. I'll bow to someone elses superior knowledge on that one.

    Tamron is a respected name in the lens world, but Sigma is another brand you should consider as they too have a reputation for quality at a reasonable price. I know Pol has some for her Pentax and may be able to help there.

    I'm sorry I can't be of any more help atm, but feel free to post some examples of what you are getting from the camera when you have some. I doknow that one of our other members has also bought a 400D and he was chuffed to bits with it too.
    Stephen

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        Re: Newbie Diving In

        Well there you go Pops, good advice methinks. If you are interested there is a review of Sigma, sometimes referred to as Bigma HERE . and the Tamron HERE
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          Thanks for the imput Andy.
          Strangely enough I have just found a Sigma 170-500 and a Sigma 28-135 Macro on Ebay. I'm watching them both with interest.
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            Hi Andy - I should also add that Pops should have a look at your Digiscoped site for some inspiration, though on second thoughts there ought to be a warning that your shots could seriously affect one's ambition!

            I do have one point of clarification to ask - do you mean 500mm in the '135' full frame sense or 500mm with the APS-C sensor size crop calculated in? On the EOS-400D that makes a 500mm lens see like an 800mm lens on a full frame DSLR.

            If you mean 500mm as in full frame, then Pops would only need a 300mm focal length or thereabout.

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              Hello Pops - nice to see you and welcome to the forum.

              I'm definitely with Andy on this one when he says "It may be a case of you prioritising and having one lens to do one job well, and another to do another job well... instead of compromising."

              If you're after clear, sharp 1:1 (life-size) macro shots with everything, or most of the frame, in focus as you'd get with smaller apertures, a dedicated macro lens would be the best choice imho.

              Equally - 500mm is definitely ideal for bird shots and having a zoom, as Andy suggests, gives you more option for framing your shots.

              Stephen mentioned I have Sigmas - I only have one Sigma in fact and that's the 170-500mm. It produces some great shots, sharp right across the zoom range. The 50-500mm (aka the 'Bigma') is probably more popular though as it has an even wider zoom range. I went for the 170-500 as a) it was cheaper b) I was already well covered up to 170mm with other lenses and I couldn't see myself needing the lower end of the 50-500mm.

              It's long and quite heavy but I'm just a little lass so I mainly use it on a tripod. I also use it with an ErgoRest 'multi-tripod' clamped onto the passenger side window of the car or camper and that's been an ideal setup for all kinds of shots, especially when it's been clamped to the camper door, which is much higher than a car. If you look in my gallery - 'Bikers' and 'On holiday with his bucket and spade' came off the 170-500mm when it was clamped to a vehicle. I don't usually do the 'paparazzi' type of thing with it but the opportunities presented themselves that day so .....

              For macros - I use either a Pentax 100mm f/2.8 or I also have a Pentax 50mm f/2.8.

              My one and only Tamron is the 28-300mm (with macro). Note - the 'with macro' means it has close focusing. That means I can focus at close distances ......... but it's by no means a true macro lens that can produce shots anywhere near as good as the ones I can get off the dedicated 100mm or 50mm. However - I've found it to be a fantastic walkabout lens that'll cover just about everything I've ever asked of it.. and very good value at the price. It's probably my most frequently used lens, also used for bird shots but mainly for larger birds that aren't too far distant such as Seagulls when we're at the coast or garden birds or squirrels when they're near enough to fill most of the frame, eg at a nearby feeder.

              One last point - my 50mm f/2.8 is also good when used as a walkabout prime lens when I'm grabbing, or trying to grab candid shots. It means I'm concentrating on getting the shots quickly and unobtrusively instead of fiddling about zooming/framing and checking to be sure there's enough light getting through.

              So --- if I were in your position I'd probably start smiling sweetly, making cups of tea etc and offering occasional bunches of flowers.

              Pol

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                Re: Newbie Diving In

                Ian....i aint half pleased you were replying to Andy cus I hadn't a clue what you meant. Hopefully it will make sense later.

                Stephen thanks for the links

                Pol Kettles on and I visited an online florist
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                  Originally posted by Pops View Post
                  Ian....i aint half pleased you were replying to Andy cus I hadn't a clue what you meant. Hopefully it will make sense later.

                  Stephen thanks for the links

                  Pol Kettles on and I visited an online florist
                  Oh and here is a pic from yesterday, taken in between the showers, using the Tamron 70-300
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                    Originally posted by Ian View Post

                    I do have one point of clarification to ask - do you mean 500mm in the '135' full frame sense or 500mm with the APS-C sensor size crop calculated in? On the EOS-400D that makes a 500mm lens see like an 800mm lens on a full frame DSLR.

                    If you mean 500mm as in full frame, then Pops would only need a 300mm focal length or thereabout.

                    Ian
                    Unfortunately, I was taking into account the APS crop factor of most cameras.

                    cheers,
                    Andy

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by Pops View Post
                      Oh and here is a pic from yesterday, taken in between the showers, using the Tamron 70-300
                      Nice natural looking shot with good accurate colour, Pops.

                      cheers,
                      Andy

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                        Originally posted by Pops View Post
                        Oh and here is a pic from yesterday, taken in between the showers, using the Tamron 70-300
                        I can see you'll be investing in new tripods and building your own hide soon too
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                          Originally posted by Stephen View Post
                          I can see you'll be investing in new tripods and building your own hide soon too

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                            That's what I thought

                            Makes my new (100-400 equiv) tele zoom seem decidedly under-powered!

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                              'Nova Photo and Electronics' - that's the name of the ebay shop where David got my long cable switch.

                              It arrived very quickly, just a few days. it's very similar to the 18" Pentax cable switch but with a much longer cable attached - bulb mode included on the switch. The Pentax switch is smoother to use in but the 'Nova' switch is nevertheless very good too.

                              Pol

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