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Well, it's real, but for the life of me I'm not sure why this shot looks like model. It was taken at 1/2000, F7.1, ISO 400, 235mm. Slight sharpening and noise reduction and minor level adjustment was the sum total of processing. I was using a Canon EOS 400D with EF70-300mm 4.5-5.6 DO IS lens.

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Well, it's real, but for the life of me I'm not sure why this shot looks like model. It was taken at 1/2000, F7.1, ISO 400, 235mm. Slight sharpening and noise reduction and minor level adjustment was the sum total of processing. I was using a Canon EOS 400D with EF70-300mm 4.5-5.6 DO IS lens.

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I would say too much noise reduction, I never use it myself it gives that plastic look.


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You could be right. I've been playing with Neat Image, so may try and calm it down. Mind you, the shot looked 'plastic' even before processing.
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You could be right. I've been playing with Neat Image, so may try and calm it down. Mind you, the shot looked 'plastic' even before processing.
Yes I had a copy of Neat Image and was impressed with it for a time, but began to realise it made the images artificial. I concluded better the noise; in fact with this image taken at 3200ISO I actually added more noise.

I don’t know what camera you made the pictures with, but if the file format you are using is JPG then check and see if the processing can be controlled in the menu, reduce contrast, reduce sharpening, and if its an option reduce noise suppression. Better still if the camera supports it use RAW and make all your own decisions in the RAW converter supplied with the camera, or even better a third party program.There’s plenty about.
The forum has been discussing the Lightroom Beta recently and the final program is due to be released soon, I can recommend it from my experience with the Beta.

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Yes I had a copy of Neat Image and was impressed with it for a time, but began to realise it made the images artificial. I concluded better the noise; in fact with this image taken at 3200ISO I actually added more noise.

I don’t know what camera you made the pictures with, but if the file format you are using is JPG then check and see if the processing can be controlled in the menu, reduce contrast, reduce sharpening, and if its an option reduce noise suppression. Better still if the camera supports it use RAW and make all your own decisions in the RAW converter supplied with the camera, or even better a third party program.There’s plenty about.
The forum has been discussing the Lightroom Beta recently and the final program is due to be released soon, I can recommend it from my experience with the Beta.

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Sorry just realised you are using a Canon, so you can use RAW.

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Hi Patrick,

It was shot in RAW, but even then the head of the pigeon caught my attention for the 'plastic' look. The eye looked especially 'artificial'. I've been playing around with Neat Image and can see the difference it makes. I may re-process it with no adjustments to see what difference it makes, when I'm back on my own machine. It seems to kind of 'freeze' everything.
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