Digital Photography Now - www.dpnow.com  
 
advertisements

Go Back   DPNow.com Discussion Forum > Image insight > Software solutions > Living with Lightroom

Living with Lightroom The DPNow forum place for Adobe Photoshop Lightroom discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-11-11
Geoff Geoff is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: No longer here.
Posts: 434
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Likes: 0
Liked at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
Geoff is on a distinguished road
My first Lightroom problem.

I installed Lightroom today, I've used a 30 day trial in the past and I've been reading lots of info and tutorials so I've got a fair idea of how it works. My first task was to start importing several thousand images from several DVDs containing photos from the past 12 years, mainly photos that I have restored or retouched for customers.

My problem is that Lightroom does not record which DVD the image is off. Other cataloging software that I've used will do this. For instance, I can find an image in the database, Lightroom tells me that it is off line and says it is from the d: drive. Previous software will tell the volume name such as DVD01 or DVD02, or whatever I've called the DVDs.

Anyone got any suggestions?

Regards,

Geoff.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-11-11
devilgas's Avatar
devilgas devilgas is offline
Been here for a while....
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: south wales
Posts: 798
Thanks: 7
Thanked 32 Times in 24 Posts
Likes: 14
Liked at 13 Times in 10 Posts
Rep Power: 0
devilgas is on a distinguished road
Re: My first Lightroom problem.

not for how to get lightroom to recognise which dvd it came from, but more a better way to store the files - copy them to a hard drive.
with storage being stupidly cheap (2Tb for c70) there really is no longer any need to have the only backup copy on optical storage. sure, go back 10 years when hard drives were expensive and dvd's cheap in comparison, it was a valid point, but not any longer.
not an answer to your question, i know, but it is a solution.
__________________
Dave
http://www.devilgas.com
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-11-11
Geoff Geoff is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: No longer here.
Posts: 434
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Likes: 0
Liked at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
Geoff is on a distinguished road
Re: My first Lightroom problem.

Thanks for the idea Dave but I have got lots of images already on DVD, these are duplicated with copies being kept in a separate location for safety. I don't really want to have to pay out more money for drives if not necessary.

The DVD's are mainly customers photos. I have a lot of my own photos on 3 or 4 external drives as well as my 2 internal drives which leads to another problem. If I plug in an external drive it comes up as F:/drivename, but when I unplugged it Lightroom shows the file as being on F: but not the name of the drive so I would be in the same boat.

This seems odd as an old version od Photoshop Elements used to record the drive name or DVD name, as did a free program called Picajet. I will ask in the Adobe forum to see if there is a simple answer.

Regards,

Geoff.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-11-11
Tom Holle Tom Holle is offline
Forum veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Kansas City, Missouri USA
Posts: 465
Thanks: 96
Thanked 22 Times in 22 Posts
Likes: 265
Liked at 16 Times in 13 Posts
Rep Power: 0
Tom Holle is on a distinguished road
Re: My first Lightroom problem.

I'm certainly no Lightroom guru but the first thought that comes to mind is to make a separate catalog for each DVD.

Tom
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-11-11
Geoff Geoff is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: No longer here.
Posts: 434
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Likes: 0
Liked at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
Geoff is on a distinguished road
Re: My first Lightroom problem.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Holle View Post
I'm certainly no Lightroom guru but the first thought that comes to mind is to make a separate catalog for each DVD.

Tom
Thanks for the suggestion Tom but I think that this would defeat the object of being able to find images of subjects that are on different DVDs or external hard drives.

Regards
Geoff.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-11-11
Patrick's Avatar
Patrick Patrick is offline
Forum veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Walsall, Pelsall, West Midlands UK
Posts: 1,787
Blog Entries: 7
Thanks: 2
Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 1 Post
Rep Power: 0
Patrick is on a distinguished road
Re: My first Lightroom problem.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
Thanks for the suggestion Tom but I think that this would defeat the object of being able to find images of subjects that are on different DVDs or external hard drives.

Regards
Geoff.
Could you not set up a folder for each DVD with a name and date in Lightroom.

Incidental there was a study some years ago and it was discussed on this Forum about CD/DVD burned on our computers, they can over time loose there information so they are not the safest method of storage.

Patrick
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-11-11
Ian's Avatar
Ian Ian is offline
Admin
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hemel Hempstead UK
Posts: 10,148
Blog Entries: 282
Thanks: 90
Thanked 136 Times in 116 Posts
Likes: 392
Liked at 193 Times in 156 Posts
Rep Power: 0
Ian is on a distinguished road
Re: My first Lightroom problem.

Unfortunately, I must go out for a meeting shortly so I can't spend much time on this today, but I believe there is a solution available. Have you tried using the import 'Add' option so the catalogue is updated without copying the images from the DVD. Previews and thumbnails will be stored in the catalogue on your PC and so the images will be tagged and searchable as normal, but when you need to work on the images you will be prompted to load the DVD. If you have got this far then the question is - can Lightroom indicate which particular DVD is required.

On the other hand I do agree with Dave that making copies stored on your PC's hard drive is the way I would do it. You can tag all the images with a unique DVD name for when you want to refer to the DVD, but it will be much more elegant and efficient to store copies on your hard drive and use the DVDs as a backup.

I have 80,000 images in Lightroom on my PC and they take up around 1.5TB of space on the drive - a 2TB hard drive is under 50 these days. 1.5TB equates to well over 300 full DVDs.

Ian
__________________
Founder/editor
Digital Photography Now (DPNow.com)
Twitter: www.twitter.com/ian_burley
Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/dpnow/
Pinterest: www.pinterest.com/ianburley/
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-11-11
Patrick's Avatar
Patrick Patrick is offline
Forum veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Walsall, Pelsall, West Midlands UK
Posts: 1,787
Blog Entries: 7
Thanks: 2
Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 1 Post
Rep Power: 0
Patrick is on a distinguished road
Re: My first Lightroom problem.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick View Post
Could you not set up a folder for each DVD with a name and date in Lightroom.

Incidental there was a study some years ago and it was discussed on this Forum about CD/DVD burned on our computers, they can over time loose there information so they are not the safest method of storage.

Patrick
I have just looked at it, its simple.

Select import from disk, select the DVD, on the destination side select other make a new folder name it and import.
Job done and identified.

That said I agree with Ian and the others the H/D is the way forward.

Patrick
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-11-11
Ian's Avatar
Ian Ian is offline
Admin
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hemel Hempstead UK
Posts: 10,148
Blog Entries: 282
Thanks: 90
Thanked 136 Times in 116 Posts
Likes: 392
Liked at 193 Times in 156 Posts
Rep Power: 0
Ian is on a distinguished road
Re: My first Lightroom problem.

Thinking about this some more - I'm sure this would work although there may be a better solution - when importing from a disc using the ADD option, keyword all the images with a unique name for the DVD, like - DVD_123_12-06-2007, or whatever. The images will be searchable using this keyword or you can see the DVD keyword in Library mode when browsing your catalogue. Simple really.

It boils down to how you identify the DVD itself in the first place.

Ian
__________________
Founder/editor
Digital Photography Now (DPNow.com)
Twitter: www.twitter.com/ian_burley
Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/dpnow/
Pinterest: www.pinterest.com/ianburley/
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-11-11
Geoff Geoff is offline
Full member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: No longer here.
Posts: 434
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Likes: 0
Liked at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
Geoff is on a distinguished road
Re: My first Lightroom problem.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian View Post
Have you tried using the import 'Add' option so the catalogue is updated without copying the images from the DVD. Previews and thumbnails will be stored in the catalogue on your PC and so the images will be tagged and searchable as normal, but when you need to work on the images you will be prompted to load the DVD. If you have got this far then the question is - can Lightroom indicate which particular DVD is required.

Ian
This is the problem, Lightroom does not record the volume name of the DVD or external HDD, just the drive letter, so it is not possible to see which disc any images are on.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick View Post
I have just looked at it, its simple.

Select import from disk, select the DVD, on the destination side select other make a new folder name it and import.
Job done and identified.

Patrick
I can only make a new folder if I select "copy" instead of "add" when importing which is defeating the object of having the images on external media.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian View Post
Thinking about this some more - I'm sure this would work although there may be a better solution - when importing from a disc using the ADD option, keyword all the images with a unique name for the DVD, like - DVD_123_12-06-2007, or whatever. The images will be searchable using this keyword or you can see the DVD keyword in Library mode when browsing your catalogue. Simple really.

It boils down to how you identify the DVD itself in the first place.

Ian
This looks like the best workaround, I will start again from scratch which isn't a big problem. Or I may even put them onto my second internal drive, I've done some housework in there and dumped some completed video projects so have more room now. Thanks Ian and Patrick for your help

I've been on the Adobe Lightroom Forum and it seems that people have been complaining about this for years. The software does not remember the name of the DVD or drive, just the drive letter so people with several drives also have to have workarounds. As I said earlier in this thread Elements and other cheaper (or free) software can do this so why can it not be done in Lightroom?

Regards,

Geoff.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09-11-11
kennykodak's Avatar
kennykodak kennykodak is offline
M.Photog.MEI.Cr.
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Cincinnati, OH USA
Posts: 266
Blog Entries: 21
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Likes: 0
Liked at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
kennykodak is on a distinguished road
Re: My first Lightroom problem.

just a word on storage be it a hard drive or a compact flash card, always leave at least 10-15% of it free.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
141% Problem Graham_of_Rainham Computer conundrums 5 02-10-11 10:25 PM
SOLVED Lightroom 3 exif metadata problem with the gallery Ian Living with Lightroom 4 01-12-10 01:21 PM
SOLVED Lightroom problem - Help ? DennisP Living with Lightroom 6 06-08-09 11:07 AM
problem getting on. dave el General discussion 4 22-06-09 03:48 PM
Lightroom 2 Problem ekkl Living with Lightroom 3 29-11-08 10:53 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:52 PM.


Digital Photography Now, 2001-2017, All rights reservedAd Management plugin by RedTyger