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Would anyone like to lend me an old Leica M-mount lens?

I'm on the look out for a good quality but old Leica M-mount lens to feature in an article I'm writing for Amateur Photographer magazine about the use of such lenses on modern digital camera bodies...

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Re: Would anyone like to lend me an old Leica M-mount lens?

Hi Ian,
Too bad we aren't closer, I have six of which 2 are new and 4 old going back as far as 1969. Besides the M8 I have used them on a Nikon 1 V2 that turns them into teles
The usual drama in stories of adapted M mount lenses is in the wide angle zone where corners go foul/wonky/wierd. What I have found with Leica lenses that I use is that they stand up to the ever increasing pixel count/densities. Their rendering qualities seem to hold up, though some can wither in strong post processing.
Good luck with this interesting subject.
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Re: Would anyone like to lend me an old Leica M-mount lens?

Hi Bob, I have to give Leica a lot of credit for their work in engineering their sensor microlenses (am using the Leica M9-derived M-E body)to combat the problem of M-lens/digital sensor optics. By comparison the results with the same lens (late 1990s Elmarit 24mm f/2.8 Asph) using a Sony Alpha 7 full frame mirrorless body are terrible until you stop down to f/11 or f/16. However, you still need to stop down in order to get clean corners on the Leica body.

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Re: Would anyone like to lend me an old Leica M-mount lens?

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Hi Bob, I have to give Leica a lot of credit for their work in engineering their sensor microlenses (am using the Leica M9-derived M-E body)to combat the problem of M-lens/digital sensor optics. By comparison the results with the same lens (late 1990s Elmarit 24mm f/2.8 Asph) using a Sony Alpha 7 full frame mirrorless body are terrible until you stop down to f/11 or f/16. However, you still need to stop down in order to get clean corners on the Leica body.

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Hi Ian,
When I got the M8 I did some tests and I agree that the offset microlenses make a significant difference. Another area of correction is the softwre activated by the lens coding. I only have one coded lens, a 28mm Elmarit Asph. I put an Expo/Disc on it and turned the "coding" option on and off and found the corners significantly improved at all f/stops. That lens usually flunks on non-Leica brand mirrorless bodies. It is OK on the N1V2 but it uses only the center 1/16th of the frame.
In all the years that I have used M Leicas, I have never warmed up to the wide end because I got too many surprises when I tried. For ultra wide I prefer the SLR where I can see the distortion and use it.
I thought that Ricoh's GR M module use offset microlenses. The Sony A7 would probably be a nice portrait rig with a 90mm Cron.
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Re: Would anyone like to lend me an old Leica M-mount lens?

I manually entered the lens ID via the appropriate menu option and it is identified in the exif data.

Not that keen on corrections being done in the camea if they are saved to the RAW file...

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Re: Would anyone like to lend me an old Leica M-mount lens?

The corrections are aslo contained in the DNG file. There are also some software solutions like CorneFix for more control and fore uncode lenses.
The Fuji M adapter for their X series has user-choice corrections for everal lenses.
When I got comfotable with my M8 I still wondered how they would ever get it all done at full frame . That might be why I never jumped on the FF wagon. I will say that I like the E-1esque sensor response of te M8 and successors.
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Re: Would anyone like to lend me an old Leica M-mount lens?

It looks as though the consensus of opinion is that the A7 is good with most 35mm M lenses, OK with some 28mm lenses and poor with wider angle M lenses though there are some exceptions. The 'WATE' lens seems OK at all focal lengths according to many reports.

I'm very happy with my A7 used in combination with the Leica M8 but a 15mm Voigtlander is quite useless on the A7. Unfortunately it is trouble on the M8 as well because it won't accept a filter and suffers from the infamous M8 infra red colour shift.

It is nice to have full frame with lenses working at design effective focal length though. I don't regret the switch.
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Re: Would anyone like to lend me an old Leica M-mount lens?

Hi Mike,
Your WATE is a more telecentric retro focus design and should be a champ. If you don't have one there will be a problem finding one
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If you don't have one there will be a problem finding one
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Bob,

Way outside my pay grade.

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Re: Would anyone like to lend me an old Leica M-mount lens?

Good evening Ian,
not been on the site for long time, just having a browse and came across this post from a couple of weeks ago. Have you found a lens or do you still want one?
All the best
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Re: Would anyone like to lend me an old Leica M-mount lens?

Hi John, nice to see you here!

Yes I was kindly loaned an Elmarit-M 24mm f/2.8 Asph (1996 vintage) but I will be on the look out for lenses again in the near future - this time either a really old lens and/or a telephoto.

There are some threads with images here:

http://dpnow.com/forum2/showthread.php?t=15890

http://dpnow.com/forum2/showthread.php?t=15891

http://dpnow.com/forum2/showthread.php?t=15894

http://dpnow.com/forum2/blog.php?b=393

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Re: Would anyone like to lend me an old Leica M-mount lens?

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<snip> I was kindly loaned an Elmarit-M 24mm f/2.8 Asph (1996 vintage) but I will be on the look out for lenses again in the near future - this time either a really old lens and/or a telephoto.
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Some say the Zuiko 24mm f/2.8 produces better images than the very expensive f/2.0 version.

I've used my one in the past on an OM bellows unit to get an image of something actually sat on a filter on the front. I shall be doing some more shots to see if I really need to get a new 25mm MFT lens or if the old Zuiko 24mm will do well enough to save me a few pennies.
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