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Lumix 3G

I am giving consideration to selling my Canon G10 and buying a Lumix 3G to move to a compact system camera.
Carrying my Canon 7D and a couple of lenses plus a suitable trypod on a recent trip to the Fleetwood wrecks proved to be harder work than such trips used to be.
I think it's called age:

I have this thing about kit lenses not being quite good enough, so I ask the question how good is the 14-45 lens fitted as standard on the camera?

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Re: Lumix 3G

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I am giving consideration to selling my Canon G10 and buying a Lumix 3G to move to a compact system camera.
Carrying my Canon 7D and a couple of lenses plus a suitable trypod on a recent trip to the Fleetwood wrecks proved to be harder work than such trips used to be.
I think it's called age:

I have this thing about kit lenses not being quite good enough, so I ask the question how good is the 14-45 lens fitted as standard on the camera?

Patrick

Patrick,

I can't answer your query about the 14-45 lens but I will comment on the 'harder work' this time when you visited the Fleetwood wrecks.

Granted 'age' catches up with us (and don't I know it) but this year is especially bad because of the endless cold, wet, miserable weather and damp atmosphere. Muscles just can't react as they normally do, everything is much harder work to achieve.

I'm struggling myself at the moment, David is too. We're both fed up to the back teeth with stiffness, weariness and a general lack of energy. I'm even struggling to climb in/out of the car and the camper. My various injuries are playing up more than usual and we still have the heating going most of the time.

Yes, age is catching up with us BUT don't underestimate the effect of this appalling weather, the endless instability of the climate this year.

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Re: Lumix 3G

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I can't help with the current lens but 14-45 on my G1 is very good indeed, well up to the standard of any other kit lens I have tried.

I have been looking at the G3 as an update on the G1 but after trying it a couple of times decided it was just too small and also I really would like inbody stabilisation so I'm going for the Olympus OM-D in due course. I'll probably keep the 14-45 to use on it.
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Re: Lumix 3G

You words "Well up the the standard of other kit lenses" are the words that worry me. I have been reading reviews and the impression I get its good but not that good.
I am fussy about image sharpness, and will only have a limited budget so have to get it right fist time, with no more money available to change it if disappointed.
I shall have to try it out somewhere before decision time.

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Hi Patrick - I will send you some sample images next week. I don't have a G3, but I have technically similar GX1 (the sensor is the same) and am going to Budapest with it on Monday.

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Hi Patrick - I will send you some sample images next week. I don't have a G3, but I have technically similar GX1 (the sensor is the same) and am going to Budapest with it on Monday.

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Thanks Ian that would be appreciated. there is no rush can't spend any more money for a few week after buying the iMac, or a least not until I have sold the older one. Do you have the longer kit lens as well I should really like the two lens kit, provided I'm happy with what I see.
A friend has a G3 but he is trying out the new 19mm Sigma, says its super sharp, but I want more versatility than a prime lens can offer.

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Re: Lumix 3G

The Panasonic 14-140 (28-180) is an excellent lens, certainly one of the best 10x superzooms around. I might be able to find a 45-200 to try for you.

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The Panasonic 14-140 (28-180) is an excellent lens, certainly one of the best 10x superzooms around. I might be able to find a 45-200 to try for you.

Ian
Well I have taken the decision and bought a Lumix 3g with the kit lens 14-42.

It was a manufacturers refurbished camera bought on eBay with full warranty, It arrived today, no time to give it a real run out yet. I have taken a few shot around the house and am impressed so far.
It is truly light weight and I find it surprisingly good to handle. The few shots round the house were at 800 iso, noise suppression appears to be quite remarkable, feeling good to date about this buying decision.
Post some pictures later when I have had a real opportunity to take some.

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Re: Lumix 3G

HI Patrick,
i have almost made the decision to get one of these too, as a second camera for my wife to use next year as I have D5000, I cant do point and shoot. so I for one will look forward to your opinion on the G3..............thats if i havent taken the plunge before
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HI Patrick,
i have almost made the decision to get one of these too, as a second camera for my wife to use next year as I have D5000, I cant do point and shoot. so I for one will look forward to your opinion on the G3..............thats if i havent taken the plunge before

My first impressions is a very good one. The camera appears to be very will made, handles surprisingly well for such a small camera. My fears on image quality using the kit lens on first impressions would seem to be unfounded.
Just about to go out into the garden and give it a trial run, there's this storage light in the sky at the moment, I think it's called the Sun, been so long I had forgotten it existed.

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HI Patrick,
i have almost made the decision to get one of these too, as a second camera for my wife to use next year as I have D5000, I cant do point and shoot. so I for one will look forward to your opinion on the G3..............thats if i havent taken the plunge before
There is always a dilemma for people interested in Micro Four Thirds - Olympus or Panasonic? In-body IS (Olympus) or in-lens OIS (Panasonic, though not on all lenses), EVF built in or add-on optional extra?

As both you and Patrick have opted for the G3, I guess the integrated viewfinder is perhaps top of the list of priorities?

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Re: Lumix 3G

My priorities were the viewfinder, size, cost and not least performance, as I have had four thirds before my Nikon format is not an an issue.
I need something that will point and shoot for my good lady that is easy to handle but maintain SLR quality as it will probably use it more.
And in that vain I ordered it earlier this evening
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Re: Lumix 3G

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My priorities were the viewfinder, size, cost and not least performance, as I have had four thirds before my Nikon format is not an an issue.
I need something that will point and shoot for my good lady that is easy to handle but maintain SLR quality as it will probably use it more.
And in that vain I ordered it earlier this evening
The viewfinder was high on my list of priority's as well, the viewfinder of my Canon G10 is pathetic and its not always convenient to use the screen for composition.


One interesting fact, I used a SD card with some images made with the Canon and I could view them on the Panasonic, I thought the file formats were incompatible.

Anyway here are two images made in the garden this evening, one at 800ISO the other at 160ISO, can you make out which is which? (without peaking at the exif data)

They were both taken in RAW brightness corrected and smart sharpened exactly the same.

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Re: Lumix 3G

I cant decide without looking at the exif data
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I would say that image 1 was taken at the higher iso.

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