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	Can you tell the difference between an 8 year old DSLR and a new one? The difference is very minor, and only a photographer's eye would capture it...to the general public, they wouldn't be able to notice the difference.
	Posted 08-01-18 at 05:16 PM by Trevor

	Can you tell the difference between an 8 year old DSLR and a new one? Wow, very interesting! I agree with the higher ISO in photo B.
	Posted 18-08-17 at 02:53 PM by linda09

	Can you tell the difference between an 8 year old DSLR and a new one? I believe that the second one has more fine details (resolution?). Otherwise, at web size and resolution I do not see any major difference. Let me ask you a question: did you move the grey and black cars in all this time or just washed them?
	Posted 25-01-14 at 01:29 AM by Horacio

	Can you tell the difference between an 8 year old DSLR and a new one? A old, B new, there look's to be more detail in the darker area's on B, so that would suggest a more advanced sensor. But what do I no
	Posted 23-01-14 at 11:12 AM by ash

Can you tell the difference between an 8 year old DSLR and a new one?

I think the fact is that nobody can tell instantly which camera is which. So the old camera is a perfectly suitable tool for producing top-notch web-quality images. For many of us that's all we do with our photography. Severe cropping would make a difference but as I will show later today, even with moderate cropping the older camera can hold its own.

Posted 21-01-14 at 12:36 PM by Ian Ian is online now

	Can you tell the difference between an 8 year old DSLR and a new one? difficult to say with such (relatively) small web images, however there is more contrast and more saturation in pic b, so i'd hazard a guess at the older camera being photo a.
	Posted 21-01-14 at 12:21 PM by devilgas

Can you tell the difference between an 8 year old DSLR and a new one?

Graham - regarding your point about the old and new versions of Lightroom - as you may know I have Lightroom 1 installed and I have been comparing results using the old camera processing RAW files with both versions of Lightroom but not processing the new camera RAWs with the old version of Lightroom - which doesn't make a lot of sense but might be interesting from a kind of academic point of view. If I have time I will have a go (hint - the new camera in question produces DNG RAW files conveniently).

Barr1e - are you sure the Rover wasn't reversing?

Posted 21-01-14 at 11:20 AM by Ian Ian is online now

	Can you tell the difference between an 8 year old DSLR and a new one? The second one was taken first. Regards. Barr1e
	Posted 20-01-14 at 07:58 PM by Barr1e

	Can you tell the difference between an 8 year old DSLR and a new one? So that's 1-all then? I think my point is well on to being made!
	Posted 20-01-14 at 06:46 PM by Ian

Can you tell the difference between an 8 year old DSLR and a new one?

They really are very similar viewed at web resolution. It is a pure guess for me to say that the top image looks to have been processed from a higher resolution file.

I'd be interested to know if LR5.3 makes any discrimination in its processing of the two files from different eras by virtue of the ACR being used. Although if, these were DNG files, the processing would be different to other RAW files.

Maybe if you used LR from the same era as the old camera some bigger difference may be noticeable.

Really clutching at straws here...

Posted 20-01-14 at 04:41 PM by Graham_of_Rainham Graham_of_Rainham is offline

	Can you tell the difference between an 8 year old DSLR and a new one? I will reveal the answer later but I would just add that both were shot with the same ISO setting of 200
	Posted 20-01-14 at 04:36 PM by Ian

	Can you tell the difference between an 8 year old DSLR and a new one? I would say that the old photo was camera A. more contrast. Camera B higher ISO. John.
	Posted 20-01-14 at 03:00 PM by escallonia

	Photokina gets started today My sleeping patterns go haywire at events like these - got back to the hotel last night at 11:45, slept for 3 hours and then got up and worked until 8AM...
	Posted 18-09-12 at 01:47 PM by Ian

	Photokina gets started today Posted at 3:54am! Are you excited by chance, Ian? Looking forward to your reports from the show.
	Posted 17-09-12 at 09:32 AM by John Perriment

	Japanese number superstition Indeed - it seems that some camera project managers in Japan are more superstitious than others! Thanks Jamie.
	Posted 30-03-12 at 12:29 PM by Ian

	Japanese number superstition There's no surprise in the D4 - Nikon had the S4 and the F4. Olympus did the OM4, and Yashica had the T4.
	Posted 30-03-12 at 12:25 PM by Jamie Harrison

Japanese number superstition

Hi Yoshi, this blog post was before the Nikon D4 launch and I knew the name but was restricted by the non-disclosure embargo until the name was made public. I was very surprised that Nikon was using the 4 in D4. I also thought it interesting that if you add the unlucky numbers in Japanese - 4+9 = 13, and of course 13 is considered unlucky in the West

Thanks for the clarification of 40 and 400, etc.!

Posted 10-02-12 at 11:30 AM by Ian Ian is online now

Japanese number superstition

I found and read this article just today.
As you write there, the number 4 is usually pronounced either "shi"= such as "she" in English or "yon" and "shi" could also mean "death".

Number 9 is pronounced either "kyu" (such as "cue") or "ku (such as "co" of "cook") and "ku" also means "suffering, pain".

On the other hand, the 4 in the number 40 or 400 are almost always pronounced "yon" and rarely "shi = death". So no need to avoid 40/400 etc.

By the same token, the 9 in the number 90/900 is pronounced almost always "kyu" so no need to avoid it either.

Nikon is a smarter guy in this rare occasion.

yoshi

Posted 10-02-12 at 11:21 AM by yoshi yoshi is offline

	Japanese number superstition Triskaidekaphobia --- fear or phobial of the number 13 Had to look it up .. who the heck uses Triskaidekaphobia in conversation
	Posted 06-01-12 at 02:06 PM by Pops

	Japanese number superstition Triska-wot?! Doesn't seem to have stopped Nikon going for the D4 name See http://dpnow.com/8417.html
	Posted 06-01-12 at 11:01 AM by Ian

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