Spyder Calibration color shift problem

[jvdwolf]

Hello all,

I'm having this problem for a couple of weeks now and can't seem to figure out whats wrong. I've read dozens of websites & forums but can't figure out what's wrong. Maybe someone can help me out here.

I have a wide gamut monitor (Eizo S2231W) which i have calibrated with a DataColor Spyder3Pro. Since then the colors in Color-aware programs such as Photoshop, Safari and FastFiewer look way off. For example, the sky turns from blue to purple. I tried to re-calibrate a couple of times, deleting all ICC-profiles, re-install the software. Nothing helps me to get rid of this color shift. Well, getting rid of the Spyders ICC-profile solves it, but this device is supposed to improve my colors, not ruin it.

Could my Spyder device be faulthy? Could it be it can't work properly with a Wide Gamut monitor?



Specs:

Windows XP
Nvidia Geforce 8400 GS
Eizo S2231W Wide Gamut monitor
Photoshop CS2
DataColor Spyder 3Pro



Kind regards,

John

[jojo]

Hi John, I'm afraid I can't help you directly, but I have contact details for Colour Confidence's product manager (nice, user-friendly sort of guy). If you want to PM me, I'll give you his details.

jo

[ash]

Quote" Could my Spyder device be faulthy? Could it be it can't work properly with a Wide Gamut monitor? "


I think the manufacturer of the device could help you better with this problem.

[Patrick]

Quote" Could my Spyder device be faulthy? Could it be it can't work properly with a Wide Gamut monitor? "


I think the manufacturer of the device could help you better with this problem.

Hi

It should work OK with a wide gamut monitor, I share ownership of a spyder2 with a friend who has a Eizo and it works fine.
I do agree that contacting some one like Colour Confidence may be helpful.

Patrick

[jvdwolf]

thanks! You've got mail :)

[jvdwolf]

Thanks for your reply's guys. I'm waiting for the contact details. I'll also try to contact the manufacturer.

[jojo]

duly sent!

jo

[Ian]

Thanks for your reply's guys. I'm waiting for the contact details. I'll also try to contact the manufacturer.

John, a couple of thoughts come to mind. Are you examining images that were adjusted prior to your screen calibration?

Secondly, sorry if this is a bit too obvious, but are your colour-aware applications, like Photoshop, defaulting to the correct colour space (sRGB, Adobe RGB, ProPhoto, etc.) as the colour space applied to the images?

Ian

[jvdwolf]

Ian,

No the problem is with every image i have in sRGB or convert to sRGB. Photoshops Proof Color function shows the sRGB image colours the same as it would appear on a not calibrated monitor. If i uncheck this the blue sky shifts to blue/purple. Also most (but not all) sRGB images from the net (flickr.com) show purple cast in Safari (CM) but not in Explorer.
It seems Wide Gamut monitors have a problem showing sRGB images in Color Managed programs when it's calibrated (WideGamut/AdobeRGB). sRGB images in color aware applications show a purple cast in the sky. In color unware applications they are over saturated but with the right colors.

[Patrick]

Ian,

No the problem is with every image i have in sRGB or convert to sRGB. Photoshops Proof Color function shows the sRGB image colours the same as it would appear on a not calibrated monitor. If i uncheck this the blue sky shifts to blue/purple. Also most (but not all) sRGB images from the net (flickr.com) show purple cast in Safari (CM) but not in Explorer.
It seems Wide Gamut monitors have a problem showing sRGB images in Color Managed programs when it's calibrated (WideGamut/AdobeRGB). sRGB images in color aware applications show a purple cast in the sky. In color unware applications they are over saturated but with the right colors.

Hi

As you have a wide gamut monitor would you be better using Adobe RGB with its wider colour range instead of sRGB. It seems a waste to me of the monitors capability.

Patrick

[jvdwolf]

Patrick,

The monitor is hardware calibrated which means it is using the wider colour range. Unfortunately most images on the web are sRGB. It seems my monitor has a problem with these images: Oversaturated in Explorer (no CM) and a purple sky in Safari (CM).

I edit my RAW's in AdobeRGB space, after converting the images for the internet to sRGB the color of the sky shifts to purple.
Offcourse the 1000's of pictures I shot in sRGB JPG have this problem the moment I open them in Photoshop or view them in Safari or other color managed programs.

[Patrick]

Patrick,

The monitor is hardware calibrated which means it is using the wider colour range. Unfortunately most images on the web are sRGB. It seems my monitor has a problem with these images: Oversaturated in Explorer (no CM) and a purple sky in Safari (CM).

I edit my RAW's in AdobeRGB space, after converting the images for the internet to sRGB the color of the sky shifts to purple.
Offcourse the 1000's of pictures I shot in sRGB JPG have this problem the moment I open them in Photoshop or view them in Safari or other color managed programs.

Then I should definitely contact Colour Confidence if they dont know the answer its difficult to know who would.
http://www.colourconfidence.com/

Patrick

[Ian]

Ian,

No the problem is with every image i have in sRGB or convert to sRGB. Photoshops Proof Color function shows the sRGB image colours the same as it would appear on a not calibrated monitor. If i uncheck this the blue sky shifts to blue/purple. Also most (but not all) sRGB images from the net (flickr.com) show purple cast in Safari (CM) but not in Explorer.
It seems Wide Gamut monitors have a problem showing sRGB images in Color Managed programs when it's calibrated (WideGamut/AdobeRGB). sRGB images in color aware applications show a purple cast in the sky. In color unware applications they are over saturated but with the right colors.

I wonder if your installed sRGB profile has been corrupted? Can you copy the file from another computer and replace it?

Ian

[jvdwolf]

This shoudn't matter because colours are the same in all programs when I set Windows Color Management to the default sRGB profile. The problem occurs when i do calibrate my monitor and use the calibrated profile or when I use the Eizo-profile delivered on the CD with my monitor.