Colour management problem (WIDE)

[StuartR]

OK, here's a screen-grab of the same tiff file viewed in:

Picasa2 : Canon Zoombrowser EX : CS3.

My problem is that the colour in the CS3 image is clearly different and I can't work out why. The original was a RAW file converted from Adobe to sRGB in DxO5 before it was run through CS3 for some final tweaks.

I'm using a newly calibrated monitor (brand new x-rite i1) and I will admit to trying to follow their video tutorial to change the settings in CS3. I've now changed them back to the default (I think - see other screen grab below) but to no avail.

Any views? Do the images on the left look "better" than the one on the right? Interesting how the Zoombrowser image is the sharpest of the three, I alway use it to review processed images but not for much else now as Picasa2 has taken over. The picture is of my niece Sarah and another niece's son Ryland (an old family name) - he'd just woken up at a party and launched straight into the Twigletts :D

http://dpnow.com/galleries//data//500/test1.jpg

http://dpnow.com/galleries//data//500/Color-Settings.jpg

[Patrick]

OK, here's a screen-grab of the same tiff file viewed in:

Picasa2 : Canon Zoombrowser EX : CS3.

My problem is that the colour in the CS3 image is clearly different and I can't work out why. The original was a RAW file converted from Adobe to sRGB in DxO5 before it was run through CS3 for some final tweaks.

I'm using a newly calibrated monitor (brand new x-rite i1) and I will admit to trying to follow their video tutorial to change the settings in CS3. I've now changed them back to the default (I think - see other screen grab below) but to no avail.

Any views? Do the images on the left look "better" than the one on the right? Interesting how the Zoombrowser image is the sharpest of the three, I alway use it to review processed images but not for much else now as Picasa2 has taken over. The picture is of my niece Sarah and another niece's son Ryland (an old family name) - he'd just woken up at a party and launched straight into the Twigletts :D

http://dpnow.com/galleries//data//500/test1.jpg

http://dpnow.com/galleries//data//500/Color-Settings.jpg

There looks little difference between the first and second image, the third is a little washed out (on my calibrated Laptop, I have not viewed on my PC). The fact there is a difference is of concern, and makes a mockery of profiling.

Are you sure all three programs are displaying the image using sRGB.

A couple of months ago I went to a workshop on colour management.
Advise seemed if the camera is set to sRGB less problems are experienced.
Reason all but the highest spec monitors, LaCie, Eizo possibly top end NEC can display the full width of Adobe RGB, these can cost anything up to £1000, similarly all but the high spec pro printers can make use of it either.

I checked a number of websites after the workshop and in general they confirmed this advise, but not all a couple still advocated Adobe RGB.
I have since changed my camera to sRGB and am having no problems of any kind to date. Now I have said it I undoubtedly will get a problem.

Patrick

[Barr1e]

Number one looks great at this end.

Regards. Barr1e

[StuartR]

There looks little difference between the first and second image, the third is a little washed out (on my calibrated Laptop, I have not viewed on my PC). The fact there is a difference is of concern, and makes a mockery of profiling.

Are you sure all three programs are displaying the image using sRGB.

A couple of months ago I went to a workshop on colour management.
Advise seemed if the camera is set to sRGB less problems are experienced.
Reason all but the highest spec monitors, LaCie, Eizo possibly top end NEC can display the full width of Adobe RGB, these can cost anything up to £1000, similarly all but the high spec pro printers can make use of it either.

I checked a number of websites after the workshop and in general they confirmed this advise, but not all a couple still advocated Adobe RGB.
I have since changed my camera to sRGB and am having no problems of any kind to date. Now I have said it I undoubtedly will get a problem.

Patrick

Hi Patrick

One thing I got wrong and that was the original image was sRGB, I forgot that I'd changed my camera from Adobe 1998 last weekend :o So the image was actually sRGB throughout processing.

I'm one step closer though, I found an option to switch colour management on in Zoombrowser, based on the monitor profile. As you can see below, the Zoombrowser and CS3 image are now pretty close.

I also recall from postings on another thread, that Picasa2 is not colour managed. However, I still can't get to grips with why a non colour-managed application wouldn't display an image per the monitor profile as that's the system's default profile?

The reason the CS3 image may look "a little washed out" is because the young lady looked like she'd been "Tangoed" when I reviewed the image in Picasa2 and Zoombrowser (before the change to Zoombrowser I mentioned earlier). To be honest the converting of the two samples to jpg to upload to the forum has made them look more colourful than they actually do when the original Tiff is viewed on-screen in CS3? All this makes getting the final output right a nightmare and I'm still convinced that I'm doing something fundamentally wrong. I'm going to send a few samples off to PhotoBox, who I know use sRGB irrespective of any embedded profile, and see what the results look like on paper.

This colour management malarkey is something that I will make sense of one day :mad: .....Possibly :D And to think this all came about because I calibrated my monitor after months of uncalibrated bliss!


http://dpnow.com/galleries//data//500/test2.jpg